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C64KER.BWR

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.FILE: C64KER.BWR / FROM: KERMSRV AT CUV
MA / TRANSFER BY HAI...DATE: TUE 8 OCT 8
5 17:20:07-EDT.FROM: ROBERT LENOIL <LENO
IL%MIT-EECS@MIT-MC.ARPA>.SUBJECT: RE: KE
RMIT 1.7 LOSES AT 1200 BAUD..YOU MUST DO
WNLOAD THE .INI FILE AS A SEQ FILE. THE 
PROPER PARAMETERS FOR THE.KLUDGE BAUD RA
TES ARE CONTAINED IN THAT FILE. 1200 BAU
D WILL NOT WORK WITHOUT.IT.  THAT WAS TH
E PROBLEM.  THERE IS NO WAY (FROM WITHIN
 KERMIT) TO SET THE.OPTIONAL BAUD RATE P
ARAMETERS IN THE .INI FILE, SO YOU BETTE
R DOWNLOAD.KERMIT.INI PROPERLY, OR 1200 
BAUD WON'T WORK.  AS AS ALTERNATIVE, YOU
 MIGHT.WISH TO CREATE KERMIT.INI WITH TH
IS SMALL PROGRAM:..10 OPEN 8,8,8,"0:KERM
IT.INI,S,W".20 FOR I=1 TO 45 : READ B : 
PRINT#1,CHR$(B); : NEXT.30 CLOSE 8.40 DA
TA 25,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,5,0,1,0,1,1,0,0,0,60
,1,56,0,38,38,0,0,0,0,13,10,8,10.50 DATA
 93,93,4,0,35,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0..-------
-----------------------..DATE: WED, 5 MA
R 86 20:25:53 PST.FROM: JOEL WEST <WESTJ
W%FROG@NOSC.ARPA>.SUBJECT: SUGGESTIONS, 
C-64 KERMIT..I HAVE THE C-64 KERMIT 1.7(
52).  I'M HAPPY WITH USING IT WITH ANOTH
ER.LOCAL MICRO, BUT THUS FAR HAVE FAILED
 WITH A REMOTE HOST (PROBABLY.DUE TO MOD
EM STATUS CONTROLS, ETC. IN THE CABLE)..
.IN C64KER.DOC, THE AUTHORS MAKE COMMENT
S ABOUT SUGGESTIONS AND IMPROVEMENTS..RE
SPONDING TO THEIR IDEAS, I'D LIKE TO OFF
ER MY 2 CENTS:.     1. SET BAUD NEEDS 24
00 BAUD, IF SAID THROUGHPUT IS FEASIBLE.
        ON THE C-64.     2. SLOWER CURSO
R BLINK IS NEEDED..     3. THE AUTHORS S
UGGEST RENAME AND SCRATCH COMMAND.  I TH
INK. THE EXISTING DISK WORKS FINE:.  DIS
K S0:SCRATCHED.  DISK R0:NEW=OLD. PERHAP
S THEY COULD MODIFY DISK ? TO PROMPT THE
SE OPTIONS..     4. SCREEN COLORS WOULD 
BE NICE, BUT B/W IS QUITE READABLE..    
 5. "IMPLEMENT WILDCARD SEND -- NEED INF
O ON 1541 DOS!", TO QUOTE. FROM THE MANU
AL.  ACCORDING TO MY 1541 MANUAL,..DIREC
TORY.TRACK 18, SECTOR 1. 0-1 TRACK, SECT
OR NEXT DIRECTORY BLOCK. 2-31 1ST ENTRY.
 34-63 2ND ENTRY. 66-95 3RD ENTRY. 98-12
7 ETC.. 226-255 LAST ENTRY..DIRECTORY EN
TRY:. 0 128+TYPE 0=DELETED, 1=SEQ, 2=PRO
G, 3=USER, 4=REL.  128 INDICATES FILE PR
OPERLY CLOSED. 1-2 T/S OF 1ST DATA BLOCK
. 3-18 FILE NAME PADDED WITH SHIFT-SPACE
 (0XA0 ?). 19-20 T/S FIRST SIDE SECTOR F
OR RELATIVE FILE. 21 RECORD SIZE, RELATI
VE FILE. 22-25 FILLER. 26-27 T/S REPLACE
MENT FILE WHEN OPEN@ IN USE. 28-29 # OF 
BLOCKS IN FILE: LOW BYTE, HIGH BYTE.IT W
OULD SEEM THAT ONLY 0-18 ARE REALLY NEED
ED FOR KERMIT APPLICATIONS...ONE LAST CO
MMENT.  I HAVE TWO COMMERCIAL WORD PROCE
SSORS, BUT NEITHER.SEEMS TO USE PLAIN CB
M ASCII TEXT. IF THE SPEEDSCRIPT EDITOR.
IS REALLY PUBLIC DOMAIN, MAYBE IT COULD 
BE DISTRIBUTED WITH KERMIT.--OR A COMPAR
ABLE REPLACEMENT... JOEL WEST?CACI, INC.
 - FEDERAL. WESTJW@NOSC.ARPA. ;DECVAX,UC
BVAX,IHNP4=!SDCSVAX!NOSCVAX!WESTJW..----
--------------------------..DATE: WED, 2
6 MAR 86 15:07:24 CET.FROM:  UZ32112%SG1
.BITNET@WISCVM.WISC.EDU.SUBJECT: C64 KER
MIT INSTALLATION EXPERIENCE..CAN YOU PLE
ASE TAKE NOTE AND FORWARD TO THE AUTHORS
 OF C64 KERMIT?  I'VE.JUST GENERATED VER
SION 1.6(49) OF C64 KERMIT AND HAVE SOME
 REMARKS:..1) THE KLUGE FACTOR YOU USE F
OR 1200 BAUDS IS VALID ONLY FOR U. S.  M
ACHINES.(NTSC). SO CALLED INTERNATIONAL 
MACHINES (PAL) HAVE OTHER REQUIREMENTS..
ASSUMING THE CORRECTION IS SUBTRACTING 1
0 DECIMAL FROM CBM VALUES, THIS.YIELDS T
HE FOLLOWING VALUES:..1200: 301=$012D.18
00: 164=$00A4.2400:  95=$005F.1200 AND 1
800 BAUDS HAVE SUCCESSFULLY BEEN TESTED 
WITH THESE VALUES,.BUT 2400 BAUDS RESIST
ED FILE TRANSFER...ALSO YOU MIGHT INCLUD
E THE KLUGE FACTOR IN EACH SPEED DEFINIT
ION TO MAKE ALL.HIGH SPEED AVAILABLE THR
OUGH THE SET BAUD COMMAND...2) YOU PLAN 
USING THE SERIAL BUS FOR DISK ACCESS (TA
LK ...). I WOULD.STRONGLY ADVISE YOU AGA
INST THAT. SOME DRIVES INTERFACE CARTRID
GES WORK BY.RE-VECTORING THE HIGH LEVEL 
ACCESS INTERFACE (CHROUT ...) AND USING 
THEIR.OWN LOW LEVEL BUS FOR DISK PARALLE
L ACCESS. YOU WOULD MISS THOSE BUSSES..A
LSO BETTER NOT RESTORE THE VECTORS! IF Y
OUR COMPLAINT IS SPEED, I'D.RECOMMEND TO
 TRANSFER DISK DATA BY CHUNKS OF SAY 16 
BYTES TO MINIMIZE THE.TALK-UNTALK OVERHE
AD...3) THE DISK COMMAND REFUSED SERVICE
. PATCHING THE MODULE TO STORE A.CARRIAG
E-RETURN (NOT A NULL) AT THE END OF THE 
BUFFER IN ROUTINE DOSPRS,.PUTS THINGS RI
GHT...4) THE LAST SET VALUES BYTE IS NOT
 CORRECTLY SAVED/RESTORED.  CPY.#QUOTE+1
-ESCP SHOULD BE +2 OR BETTER SOME EQUATE
D SETSLEN...5) IF YOU CONSIDER WILDCARD 
SENDS VALUABLE, MAY I SUGGEST THE FOLLOW
ING.SOLUTION. A) OPEN A DRIVE INPUT FILE
 WHOSE NAME IS.$:USER-SPECIFILED-FILE-PA
TTERN (A LA CBM DOS), AND SECONDARY ADDR
ESS 0...B) READ THIS FILE (BASIC FORMAT 
LIKE) USING THE FOLLOWING ALGORITHM,.   
EXTRACTED FROM COMFORTH, A WONDERFUL FOR
TH DEVELOPMENT SYSTEM.   AVAILABLE HERE 
IN BELGIUM..   SKIP 2 BYTES...   BEGIN. 
    READ 2 BYTES, OR <> WHILE ( NOT DOUB
LE NULL ).     SKIP 2 BYTES ( CONTAINING
 FILE BLOCKS COUNT ).     BEGIN SKIP 1 B
YTE ASCII " = UNTIL.     BEGIN READ 1 BY
TE, ASCII " <> WHILE.       COPY IT TO F
ILENAME BUFFER.     REPEAT.     BEGIN SK
IP 1 BYTE NULL = UNTIL.     NOT FIRST BL
OCK IF ( NOT DRIVE NAME ).       USE FIL
ENAME TO DRIVE FILE TRANSFER.     ENDIF.
   REPEAT..C) CLOSE FILE..NEVER BUY WHAT
 YOU CAN STEAL. (THEY SAY)...I HOPE TO H
AVE CONTRIBUTED TO A WORK OF PATIENCE TO
 WHICH WE ARE HEARTFULLY.GRATEFUL..A. PI
RARD.SEGI.UNIVERSITE DE LIEGE.15, AVENUE
 DES TILLEULS.4000 LIEGE..--------------
----------------..DATE:     WED, 25 FEB 
87 16:23 CST.FROM: <JOHN@UKANVAX>.SUBJEC
T:  KERMIT IMPLEMTATION ON C64.TO: FDC@C
UCCA.COLUMBIA.EDU..          DEAR MR. DA
 CRUZ,..          CONGRATULATIONS ON YOU
R FINE BOOK, "KERMIT:  A FILE TRANSFER. 
         PROTOCOL".  THE BOOK IS ONE OF 
THE HIGHEST QUALITY BOOKS I.          HA
VE SEEN IN YEARS, AND WE WOULD LIKE TO S
EE YOU RICH BECAUSE.          OF IT.  I 
MUST SAY I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE WH
OLE KERMIT.          "WORLD".  IF ONLY T
HIS COOPERATION AND INTELLIGENCE WERE.  
        MORE COMMON...          A FRIEND
 OF MINE, ERIC GREENE, AND I HAVE BEEN W
ORKING ON A.          TERMINAL PACKAGE F
OR MY COMMODORE 64, BECAUSE WE NOTICED A
.          LACK OF GOOD TERMINAL PROGRAM
S.  AFTER READING YOUR BOOK, WE.        
  DECIDED A KERMIT IMPLEMENTATION WOULD 
BE A GOOD BASIS FOR.          DESIGN.  W
E WOULD APPRECIATE ANY NEWS YOU HAVE CON
CERNING.          RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN
 THE KERMIT PROTOCOL...          PROGRAM
 NOTES: (AS YOU REQUESTED IN CHAPTER 8 O
F "KERMIT")..          MACHINE: COMMODOR
E 64.          OPERATING SYSTEM:  BERKLE
Y SOFTWORKS' GEOS, IF WE CAN GET.       
   TECHNICAL INFO. ON IT..          PROG
RAMMING LANGUAGE:  'C' AND 6502 ASSEMBLY
.          "SERIOUSNESS":  THE AUTHORS A
RE COLLEGE STUDENTS, DEVELOPING.        
  THIS ON THEIR SPARE TIME.  WE ARE 85% 
DEDICATED TO.          COMPLETING THE PR
OJECT AS SCHEDULED..          TENTATIVE 
SCHEDULE:  TESTING WILL (HOPEFULLY) BEGI
N 3RD.          QUARTER '87..          A
UTHORS' ADDRESSES:.          ----------H
OME---------- ---------SCHOOL---------. 
                         JOHN A. THYWISS
EN <JOHN@UKANVAX.BITNET>..          7 ST
ONEGATE              UNIVERSITY OF KANSA
S.          HOUSTON, TX  77024       JOS
EPH R. PEARSON HALL.                    
               ROOM 213.                
                   1122 WEST CAMPUS RD..
                                   LAWRE
NCE, KS  66045.          (713) 468 0507 
          (913) 864 2646...             
              ERIC S. GREENE..          
169 TERRACE TRAIL W.     UNIVERSITY OF K
ANSAS.          LAKE QUIVIRA, KS  66106 
 JOSEPH R. PEARSON HALL.                
                   ROOM 119.            
                       1122 WEST CAMPUS 
RD..                                   L
AWRENCE, KS  66045.          (913) 631 4
288           (913) 864 2608..          
WE ARE AWARE OF ONE OTHER IMPLEMENTATION
 OF KERMIT FOR THE.          '64 THAT IS
 BASED ON THE APPLE VERSION.  THE IMPLEM
ENTATION.          WE ARE WRITING WILL H
AVE MORE FEATURES, INCLUDING.          (
HOPEFULLY) VT100 EMULATION IN 80 COLUMNS
...          WE  ALSO HAVE PLANS OF PORT
ING THE PROGRAM TO AN ATARI 800 IN.     
     THE FUTURE.  (IT WILL RUN UNDER ATA
RI DOS.)..                              
          THANK YOU,.                   
                     JOHN THYWISSEN..---
---------------------------..DATE: THU 2
6 FEB 87 09:32:08-EST.FROM: FRANK DA CRU
Z <SY.FDC@CU20B.COLUMBIA.EDU>.SUBJECT: R
E: KERMIT IMPLEMTATION ON C64.TO: JOHN@U
KANVAX..THANKS FOR THE NICE WORDS ABOUT 
THE BOOK.  YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN A BOOK.R
EVIEWER!  ABOUT COMMODORE-64 KERMIT...  
NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.IN YEAR
S.  THE CURRENT VERSION, BASED ON APPLE 
II KERMIT AND WRITTEN IN.A WIERD LANGUAG
E (CROSS, WHICH IS SORT OF LIKE PDP-11 A
SSEMBLY LANGUAGE,.WHICH YOU ASSEMBLE INT
O 6502 OBJECT CODE USING A CROSS ASSEMBL
ER THAT ONLY.RUNS ON THE DEC-10 OR DEC-2
0), ALREADY DOES VT-52 EMULATION.  VT100
 EMULATION,.OF COURSE, WOULD BE A BIG IM
PROVEMENT.  IF YOU'RE PUTTING KERMIT PRO
TOCOL.INTO IT, YOU CAN USE THE KERMIT BO
OK AS A GUIDE -- IT'S COMPLETELY UP TO D
ATE..THE IMPORTANT THING IS TO WRITE THE
 PROGRAM IN A LANGUAGE THAT IS NATIVE TO
.THE C64, AND THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE.  TH
IS WAY, THE PROGRAM DOESN'T "DIE" AS.THE
 CROSS C64 KERMIT HAS.  SINCE THE C64 IS
 AN OLD SYSTEM, IT WOULD ALSO BE.DESIRAB
LE THAT YOUR PROGRAM SUPPORT THE NEWER M
ODELS -- 128, ETC (OBVIOUSLY,.NOT THE AM
IGA, WHICH NEEDS -- AND HAS -- ITS OWN P
ROGRAM).  I'LL ADD YOUR.NAMES TO THE "PO
TENTIAL KERMIT CONTRIBUTORS" FILE (AAWAI
T.HLP).  ALSO, HERE.ARE THE NAMES AND NE
TWORK ADDRESSES OF A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO H
AD TAKEN INTEREST.IN C64 KERMIT IN THE P
AST -- SENDING IN BUG FIXES, ETC -- SO Y
OU MIGHT WANT.TO ASK THEM FOR THEIR IDEA
S ABOUT WHAT'S NEEDED:..JOEL WEST, CACI 
INC. ("GOULD9!JOEL"@NOSC.ARPA).ANDRE PIR
ARD, U OF LIEGE, BELGIUM (A-PIRARD@BLIUL
G12.BITNET)..GOOD LUCK!  - FRANK..------
------------------------..DATE: WED, 03 
FEB 88 22:05:09 -0500.FROM: RAY@J.CC.PUR
DUE.EDU (RAY MOODY).SUBJECT: GNU EMACS W
ITH C64 KERMIT.KEYWORDS: C64 KERMIT..IN 
INFO-KERMIT DIGEST VOLUME 7, NUMBER 3 YO
U WRITE:.>WHILE USING GNU EMACS WITH C64
 KERMIT AT 1200 BAUD, I NOTICED WHEN SCR
OLLING.>UP ONLY, THE SCREEN WOULD GET GA
RBLED. (PROBALLY OVERFLOWING THE INPUT.>
BUFFER? I HAVEN'T NOTICE THIS HAPPENING 
AT 300 BAUD (300 BAUD?!? ARGH!))..    YE
S, YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.  SINCE THE COMMO
DORE-64 HAS NO BUILT-IN.80-COLUMN SCREEN
, I HAVE TO SIMULATE 80-COLUMNS WITH BIT
MAP GRAPHICS..SCROLLING A BITMAP SCREEN 
BACKWARDS IS A NON-TRIVIAL OPERATION AND
 TAKES A LOT.OF TIME.  IF KERMIT RECEIVE
S SCROLL-REVERSE REQUESTS TOO FAST, IT W
ILL OVERFLOW.ITS INPUT BUFFER...    NORM
ALLY, WHEN KERMIT'S INPUT BUFFER IS IN D
ANGER OF BEING OVERFLOWED,.KERMIT WILL T
RANSMIT A ^S TO STOP THE REMOTE HOST FRO
M SENDING.  THE ONLY.PROBLEM IS THAT GNU
EMACS CHOOSES TO IGNORE THIS STOP REQUES
T...    THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO SOLVE 
THIS PROBLEM:..    1) THE BEST SOLUTION 
I CAN THINK OF IS TO TELL GNUEMACS THAT 
YOU WISH TO.       USE FLOW-CONTROL.  YO
U CAN DO THIS BY PUTTING (SET-INPUT-MODE
 NIL T).       IN YOUR .EMACS FILE...   
 2) ASK GNUEMACS TO PROVIDE A DELAY AFTE
R SCROLLING THE SCREEN BACKWARDS..      
 YOU CAN DO THIS BY ADDING SR=<XXX>\EM T
O YOUR TERMINAL DESCRIPTION,.       WHER
E <XXX> IS THE NUMBER OF MILLISECONDS OF
 DELAY THAT YOU WANT.  I.       EXPERIME
NTED A LITTLE AND FOUND THAT 200 MILLISE
CONDS IS "ABOUT" RIGHT..       THIS ISN'
T VERY ELEGANT BECAUSE IT WILL SLOW GNUE
MACS DOWN A LOT...    3) USE A COMMODORE
-128 OR WAIT FOR KERMIT 2.1 TO BE RELEAS
ED AND USE A.       BATTERIES-INCLUDED 8
0-COLUMN ADD ON CARD.  IF YOU USE ONE OF
 THESE,.       KERMIT WILL NOT BE FORCED
 TO SIMULATE AN 80 COLUMN SCREEN WITH GR
APHICS...                   RAY MOODY,  
  AUTHOR OF COMMODORE KERMIT VERSION 2.0
.                    RAY@J.CC.PURDUE.EDU
.                    IHNP4!PUR-EE!J.CC.P
URDUE.EDU!RAY.                    MOODY@
PURCCVM.BITNET..    MANY THANKS TO JAY V
OSBURGH FOR PROVIDING THE MAGIC EMACS IN
CANTATIONS...---------------------------
---..DATE: SAT, 04 JUN 88 23:28:29 MET.F
ROM: JOS GROTE PUNT <U448025%HNYKUN11.BI
TNET@CUVMA.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU>.SUBJECT: PRO
BLEMS WITH DOWNLOADING COMMODORE 64 KERM
IT.KEYWORDS: C64 KERMIT..MANY PEOPLE HAV
E A PROBLEM WITH DOWLOADING AND CONVERTI
NG C-64 KERMIT. THE.CAUSE IS A BUG IN TH
E FILE C64DXL.HEX. IN THE FILE C64KER.HL
P IT SAYS THAT.WITH C64DXL.BAS YOU CAN C
ONVERT THIS HEXDUMP FILE INTO A HEXDUMP 
LOADER. WITH.THIS LOADER (CALLED C64DXL.
C000) YOU CAN THEN CONVERT C64KER.HEX TO
 A RUNNING.VERSION OF KERMIT. THE HELP F
ILE STATES THAT YOU SHOULD SAVE THE FILE
 WITH THE.LAST ADDRESS DISPLAYED BY C64D
XL.C000. YOU WILL NEVER SEE THIS ADDRESS
 BECAUSE.OF THE BUG. IT WORKS OK IF YOU 
CHANGE $00 ON ADDRESS $C20A IN $60 (BRK 
CHANGED.IN RTS)...BESIDES THAT THERE'S A
NOTHER PROBLEM WITH C64KER.HEX. THIS FIL
E IS IN THE SO.CALLED MINMIC HEXDUMP FOR
MAT, WHERE A EVERY LINE LOOKS LIKE THIS:
.  1. A ';' THAT MARKS THE BEGINNING OF 
THE LINE.  2. THE NUMBER OF DATA BYTES. 
 3. THE ADRESS (IN HIGH-LOW FORMAT) FROM
 WHICH THIS LINE IS TO BE LOADED.  4. TH
E DATA BYTES ITSELF (A-F IN UPPERCASE). 
 5. TWO-BYTE CHECKSUM (HIGH-LOW FORMAT),
 BEING THE SUM OF ALL OTHER BYTES..THE L
AST LINE HAS A 00 AS THE NUMBER OF DATA 
BYTES. SO, WHAT'S WRONG WITH.C64KER.HEX?
 IT HAS TWO DATABYTES LESS THAN ABOVE IT
EM 2 SAYS! RESULT: THE HEX-.DUMP FILE LO
ADS OK, BUT THE CHECKSUM CAN'T BE CHECKE
D. THIS MEANS THAT IF YOU.WERE LUCKY AND
 THERE WAS NO ERROR DURING THE DOWNLOAD 
OF C64KER.HEX THAN THE.RESULTING KERMIT 
WILL WORK, IN THE OTHER CASE YOU HAVE A 
BIG PROBLEM! THE.STRANGE THING IS THAT T
HE FILE C64DXL.HEX IS ALLRIGHT..I HOPE T
HIS INFO CAN HELP SOME PEOPLE...JOS GROT
E PUNT.FACULTY OF MEDICINE.UNIVERSITY OF
 NYMEGEN.THE NETHERLANDS..U448025@HNYKUN
11.BITNET..-----------------------------
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